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Post by Moderator on Feb 7, 2006 10:57:23 GMT -5
Everyone needs to relax a second. Due to things beyond our control things, especially our roster, things have to change! It makes no sense to have the same exact roster as another women's company, does it? It has caused confusion in the past and would've been certain for it to happen again. If DWOW is to move forward with TV, DVD and PPV, our own unique roster is needed. No one would've understood why Hulk Hogan was in WCW and WWE at the same time, if that ever were to happen.
If you've been following the message board there has been talks of big changes. This roster change is one of them. DWOW will have their separate unique roster. The main reasoning behind this is marketability.
2006 is a New Year and a new era for Women's Pro Wrestling. DWOW has offered all our veteran talent a spot with the company, for whatever reasons of their own they've decided not come aboard. We only hope the best for them, our friends in the business. We understand that you may not be happy about it, we're not, but that's life and business. Feel free to keep up with their careers elsewhere. We must move forward.
Restocking The Dangerous Women of Wrestling roster and making new stars is our goal. There will be MEN on the roster like it or not. GLOOW / DWOW and the other women's company had it at one time. We will continue on with our program as we see fit. Don't think for one second that G.I. Ho, Tai Weed, Elle Mae and other female careers here weren't enhanced by our male talent. If you don't think so, you are sadly mistaken. What do you think made G.I. Ho so hardcore? Was it the 60 minute iron women matches with ACP, Tai or Elle? No, it was not. It was a combination of things, including yes, you guessed it... our male enhancement talent.
MOD.
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Post by lizsavage on Feb 7, 2006 12:17:09 GMT -5
I am glad to be a part of the new team!!! No matter what the critics and "smarks" say about us, I think DWOW is one of the most fun wrestling promotions out there! Unfortunatly most indy wrestlng promotions forgot one thing; wrestling is supposed to be entertaining and fun not only for the fans but for the wrestlers. I think DWOW has proven that they can do just that!
The Danbury show is going to rock, I can't wait to see what mayhem we bring to CT!
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Post by PaliAzzar on Feb 7, 2006 12:31:53 GMT -5
It was a combination of things, including yes, you guessed it... our male enhancement talent. MOD. I should have known it would all come down to male enhancement. ;D
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Post by shootinu on Feb 9, 2006 20:33:26 GMT -5
I'm in! I'm willing to give the new regime a shot! Lets see if the powers to be have anything in the tank left.
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Post by vnndlr on Feb 11, 2006 21:42:51 GMT -5
Moderator, I have to politely disagree with you, in regards to males, and the role they play during the DWOW shows. One mixed match is ok, but to have three to four is not what the fans want to see! We want female vs female; bully/bitch/heel vs the face/good girl! We see enough all male shows, and when we attend DWOW, we go to see the girls wrestle! I, as well as others agree, that G.I. Ho, Tia Weed, and their matches against the males did not give them their allure! It was when G.I. Ho fought the mean, and menacing bully like Lady Storm, as well as other female heels that gave her the star status that endeared her to the fans! I remember the Barroom Barbie vs Dawn Mae match at Danbury, CT on 10/17/01, that was a great match, because it featured a bully in Dawn Mae, and a sexy blond bomshell like Barroom Barbie. The fans were really into it, then at the end, the match luster of the match was tarnished because Steve the Sound Guy had to enter into it! It's not that males shouldn't play a role in DWOW, its that the females should always be front, and center, because they are the ones we the fans drive the long distances, and pay the $$$ to see! The solution to the situation is; attract more female talent! Moderator, I'm interested in your take on what I had to say.
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Post by Moderator on Feb 12, 2006 13:13:41 GMT -5
Moderator, I have to politely disagree with you, in regards to males, and the role they play during the DWOW shows. One mixed match is ok, but to have three to four is not what the fans want to see! We want female vs female; bully/bitch/heel vs the face/good girl! We see enough all male shows, and when we attend DWOW, we go to see the girls wrestle! I, as well as others agree, that G.I. Ho, Tia Weed, and their matches against the males did not give them their allure! It was when G.I. Ho fought the mean, and menacing bully like Lady Storm, as well as other female heels that gave her the star status that endeared her to the fans! I remember the Barroom Barbie vs Dawn Mae match at Danbury, CT on 10/17/01, that was a great match, because it featured a bully in Dawn Mae, and a sexy blond bomshell like Barroom Barbie. The fans were really into it, then at the end, the match luster of the match was tarnished because Steve the Sound Guy had to enter into it! It's not that males shouldn't play a role in DWOW, its that the females should always be front, and center, because they are the ones we the fans drive the long distances, and pay the $$$ to see! The solution to the situation is; attract more female talent! Moderator, I'm interested in your take on what I had to say. First, I would like to thank you upfront for your approach on this issue. Unlike others it is well thought out and your points taken. However, this is the way that the powers that be do things. Me personally, I don't think an all girl promotion would work on the sole merits of in ring work. Women are different than men when it comes to wrestling, from their work rate to their overall drive. For example, how about each time a woman is given a spot to do a "chair or table" spot, they almost always botch it. Or they deliver a weak chair shot or the ever popular not breaking of a table. I could list many blown spots by female in the run of this company who did (or should I say did not do) exactly what I just wrote. Explain how a woman who has little or no training can command more money than say an experienced trained wrestler? The answer I would probably most likely receive is because she's a girl... tna... I didn't say it, everyone else did. That is not right is it? You’re entitled to your opinion, but I think (in my opinion) that you are wrong when it comes especially to the development of G.I. Ho. All of G.I. Ho’s greatest moments were with (like it or not) the Sound Guy, EXCEPT her oil matches (which were ALWAYS entertaining! Plus I would NEVER want to see SG in oil! lol). I agree, as I'm sure the powers to be and I'll even go out on a limb and The Sound Guy too all believe in the theory about the women being out in front first, as that is really why people come to our shows and buy our merchandise. I would say the Sound Guy does a good job at his role, as what other male would be happy in his role with a win / lose record of say 2 (wins) -175 (loses). I would say SG is the biggest jobber of ALL TIME (right up with the Mulky's! lol). However, explain to me how The Sound Guy has the highest grossing merchandise ever in the history of the company with his t-shirts and hats? Interesting fact huh? I think so. I remember when this company first started and a lot of female wrestlers didn't want ANYTHING to do with us. At the time there were no real all Women's company running live shows, as they all closed up shop faster than they opened for business. I remember when WWE didn't have women matches at all. I remember when it was only cool for a women to be a valet and not a wrestler. I remember when guy wrestlers would NEVER want to be in the same ring or a spot with a female. I remember when a guy would NEVER think of hitting or performing a spot on a female until DWOW. I remember when a guy would NEVER job to a female wrestler or valet, until DWOW. Say what you will but GLOOW / DWOW and even WEW blazed a path (like it or not) for Women's Wrestling. Sure it may not be exactly what you want it to be, but we have been responsible for putting Women's Pro Wrestling in the forefront! Look at all these Women's companies popping up over the years and shut right down. We're still standing, swinging and running live events. That's a lot more than most can say they’ve done or accomplished. We've done things our way thus far and have helped WEW with their product mold as they have been successful on PPV. We will continue to do things "our way”, until "our way” lets us down, we won't be changing. To close, DWOW was built on the design and mold you have seen over the years. Guys will always be apart of our formula known as DWOW. That is not my formula, but the powers in charge design. MOD.
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Post by The Sound Guy on Feb 12, 2006 14:55:31 GMT -5
I remember the Barroom Barbie vs Dawn Mae match at Danbury, CT on 10/17/01, that was a great match, because it featured a bully in Dawn Mae, and a sexy blond bomshell like Barroom Barbie. The fans were really into it, then at the end, the match luster of the match was tarnished because Steve the Sound Guy had to enter into it! I Blah, blah, blah... What's next crotch shots? SG
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Post by vnndlr on Feb 12, 2006 17:18:15 GMT -5
Moderator, Thank you for responding in such quick order, funny, I understand what you are saying, and beleive me, there is not as much difference in our opinions as it seems! I feel Smoke, and Steve the Sound Guy play an important role in the show in getting the crowd all ginned up and all. The point that I'm trying to make is that in an all female show, the guys should play a more secondary role, and not steal the thunder from the females! What it sounds like is, you need a female version of Steve the Sound Guy, Smoke, or Rowdy Roddy Piper. You need a female that can work the crowd, and get them worked up in a way that those three men do. Lady Storm, Dawn Mae, and Pryme Tyme Amy Lee seem to be the closest to doing that, they just need to ramp it up a notch. And yes, as far as being confrontational, and antagonistic towards the fans during the show, there is something to be learned by these three men. After all, the fans want someone to root for, and against, and one of the biggest problems with womans wrestling is, that they all have identical ring personalities!
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Post by kamnet on Feb 13, 2006 18:23:42 GMT -5
Hey, I'm all for the changing of the guard.
I just wanna see who is on the duty roster now!
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Post by ed on Feb 14, 2006 3:02:54 GMT -5
What changing of the guard? With few exceptions, Liz Savage being one, the roster was the same as most WEW shows. However no April Hunter or Talia, funny as they were in the building for the WET show that followed. I guess you don't really want the BEST talent available if you can so blithely dismiss a star like Hunter, for which there can be no valid excuse!
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Post by The Sound Guy on Feb 14, 2006 9:16:56 GMT -5
What changing of the guard? With few exceptions, Liz Savage being one, the roster was the same as most WEW shows. However no April Hunter or Talia, funny as they were in the building for the WET show that followed. I guess you don't really want the BEST talent available if you can so blithely dismiss a star like Hunter, for which there can be no valid excuse! Hey Ed did you know that April Hunter NO-SHOWED a GLOOW (now DWOW) event in Danbury, CT back in 2002? I think the reason was she was booked in a "Missile on a Pole Match" was her reasoning. For the record the stipulation of the match was to retrieve a dildo in a container and hit your opponent with it, not stick it in them and have sex with them. I'm sorry isn't this the same April Hunter who has done porn and adult related material? I find now find her excuse to be very hypocritical don't you, especially since she works for WEW on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong, from what I hear she is a great talent, but sometimes some things aren't meant to be, that is all. SG
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Post by Moderator on Feb 14, 2006 9:30:32 GMT -5
What changing of the guard? With few exceptions, Liz Savage being one, the roster was the same as most WEW shows. However no April Hunter or Talia, funny as they were in the building for the WET show that followed. I guess you don't really want the BEST talent available if you can so blithely dismiss a star like Hunter, for which there can be no valid excuse! As we understand what you're saying and why (because you are fan looking from the outside), the company started to take shape before the February 2nd show for the record. We weren't looking to change the roster that night or right away, but it had to be done. It was already made clear to us that both Talia and Hunter were both in WEW's long term plans, so for us to use them makes no sense. I know this sounds crazy as there are hundreds of shows that go on that you could see talent on, but we aren’t some Indy company looking just to do live shows. The only way for DWOW to survive and compete in the marketplace is to have its own roster. A Pay Per View or DVD company would be confused and not welcome our product if we had the same exact girls WEW have on their releases? Tai, Amy and Isis were home-grown talent from OUR original roster, so this was more or less their farewell show. For the record, just because you think they are the "best" talent, doesn't make it so. Being the "best" talent does not mean nothing, unless that person will be the best team player they can be. If they can't or we don't think they can be the best fit for DWOW, we are not interested in them. As for Talia and Hunter, we wish them the best of the luck with their career and if things change down the line we would love to entertain the thought of having them aboard. MOD.
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Post by The Sound Guy on Feb 14, 2006 9:53:19 GMT -5
IF YOU PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT DWOW IS DOING... STOP POSTING HERE... COMING TO THE SITE... AND DON'T COME TO THE SHOWS!!!
Anyone (female wrestlers) who is not booked in DWOW is working somewhere else (in front of less people I'm sure!), so go support them as they need all the help they can get! Why are you people shittin on DWOW when they want to be unique and have their own talent? Don't you stupid F's know that is what made ECW special? DWOW may not be able to offer contracts and all, but they are trying different things and will need their own roster to compete and beat their competition. Doesn't that make sense? You can see female talent all over the place now (now that DWOW continued to blaze the path when no one respected or wanted to use women on their shows except for eye candy). Stop whining about this one and that one not working for DWOW. They were doing just fine without DWOW when we weren't running and they sure don’t' need DWOW now that WWE is signing so much female talent for their boyz to bang!
If you don't like it, don't read our boards, don't look at DWOW pictures and videos and please don’t' come to the events!
Steve "The Sound Guy"
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Post by 2vicious4u on Feb 14, 2006 10:03:47 GMT -5
I am glad to be a part of the new team!!! No matter what the critics and "smarks" say about us, I think DWOW is one of the most fun wrestling promotions out there! Unfortunatly most indy wrestlng promotions forgot one thing; wrestling is supposed to be entertaining and fun not only for the fans but for the wrestlers. I think DWOW has proven that they can do just that! The Danbury show is going to rock, I can't wait to see what mayhem we bring to CT! liz i thought u did awesome!! i cant wait to see u and the crew in danbury on the march 10.
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Post by wresclothesline on Feb 14, 2006 15:45:09 GMT -5
So, outside of the girls that have been announced as no longer with the company, who can you tell us IS still with the company (and I don't mean the Meanie or the Maes! LOL)?
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