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Post by cjsim on Jun 28, 2006 20:52:35 GMT -5
Well it's apparent that the new ECW isn't going over big well I've been hearing it from fans who actually get to see it,of coarse it's not going to be a great product,Vince McMachon has his hands on it,he bought out WcW and basically did in short noting with the product,just showing off his already enormious ego,I personally would have liked to have seen WcW SmackDown and keep the WcW stars that made that promotion great on the roster,and every year at possibly a WRESTLEMANIA event have a dream match,just using reference here, such as Booker T taking on John Cena,building things for a year,instead Vince just let it die and it's rich history die with it. It's the same with ECW,that product was a product that did their own thing and didn't care what anybody thought,now they have a puppet master in that of Vinnie Mac pulling the strings and telling Heyman and Dreamer what to do,Vince didn't make ECW,we the fans did,as did the guy's that went out there and hit a little harder,shed their blood,worked in smoke filled arena's with beer drinking lunatics that loved the action in the ring,in short Wrestling, Vince is making this into his side project and making it into his sports entertainment brand,will ECW survive? It may if Vince continue's to pore money into it,will we like it? Not if he doesn't allow eyman and Dreamer to take full charge and start taking it to smaller venue's instead of taping it with SMACKDOWN. Now onto WEW,in short they suck,they can't work,and here's the HUGE problem I have with them? I bought a few of their DvD's,they actually "CUT" the nudity from it? ?? Hello when your putting down money you don't cut anything,tis is nonsense,cutting nudity and censoring breast shots and so forth on a DvD? Yeah give the fans what they want? Please... CJSim
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Post by Moderator on Jun 28, 2006 22:30:29 GMT -5
Now onto WEW,in short they suck,they can't work,and here's the HUGE problem I have with them? I bought a few of their DvD's,they actually "CUT" the nudity from it? ?? Hello when your putting down money you don't cut anything,tis is nonsense,cutting nudity and censoring breast shots and so forth on a DvD? Yeah give the fans what they want? Please... CJSim Well we're this is a DWOW message board. However, we can understand what you're saying about the edited DVDs, that does suck for people wishing to see that stuff, especially since they are more "adult" oriented. If you have complaints about it send them an email and tell them, becuase they most likely are not reading this board. MOD.
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Post by cjsim on Jun 29, 2006 9:07:36 GMT -5
Trust me I have... Do you think anybody really listens to the fans in this business? Hell NO! Been in it,know all about it. Also read about DWOW stating how they can compete with ECW?Here's what was said "Don't let DWOW get a National TV Show because I will request and petition that we can go head to head with E.C.W. WE WOULD CRUSH YOU!" Vince McMachon runs this ECW,he has un-limited funds,you don't,Vince and this ECW in all do respect would crush you guy's,they'd buy your talent,offer them fame and fortune and you'd be left with nothing, when you get a deal going where you have a national plat form and are known over the world then you have rights to brag,Vince like him or hate him he is known,the WWE is known,you think he'd sit there and let promotion move on in? He bought ECW and WcW and rights to other promotions with a strong history, do I like the product,do I think this ECW is as good as 4 or 5 years back,Hell NO! It's Vince's project,and trust me I know all to well about this business,Vince destroy's lives and has no remorse, that's why he is where he is today,NWA TnA has a stronger chance in competing with ECW and WWE then any other promotion. Now I'm not trying to be mean here or come off like a jerk,just that this is true,the only way this ECW will die if Vince let's it.
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Post by shootinu on Jun 29, 2006 18:02:28 GMT -5
Talk about a buzz killer! lol
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Post by cjsim on Jun 30, 2006 7:28:23 GMT -5
I've seen it all... Been watching this for some 30 years now,started watching it when I was like 2 at my Grandparents house,it's very premature to say that DWOW,WEW or any other Promotion can compete with WWE and Vince McMachon,TnA is trying but still aren't even close,but in terms of promotion competing with WWE,well in short TnA is the only one that can do it with a major backer,Vince would just go into his pocket pull out $100,000 grand and good bye DWOW roster lol and $100,000 for Vince would be spare change.The truth also is that mostly men follow women's Wrestling,why is this? Hmmmm let me guss here,it must be the in ring stuff...lol The only reason the WEW even sells DvD's is because of the oe thing men watch women's Wrestling for "SEX" it's true,oh yes it's damn true. Why did ECW sell so well? Sex and Violence,anybody who follows Wrestling knows this,and anybody in the business should as well,know several guy's who run promotions and they have women working their shows and they state the same,the women sell because well in short they are women, I mean with a name like G.I. Ho it doesn't sound like she's selling girlguide cookies,to end this Vince runs a billion dollar francise and ECW is apart of it,when you start selling out tickets in five minutes and are seen world wide then you can say "Hey you were wrong",we can compete... Admittly who wants to see this new ECW? A Zombie, a male stripper who is a WWE writer? What the Hell has this world come to,WWE is making a mockery of it,anyway that's it for me on this.
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Post by PaliAzzar on Jun 30, 2006 8:07:31 GMT -5
Admittly who wants to see this new ECW? A Zombie, a male stripper who is a WWE writer? What the Hell has this world come to,WWE is making a mockery of it,anyway that's it for me on this. Well, VKM owns ECW now and can make a mockery of it. Money has a way of ruining anything it touches. Here's another fine example. Where is the love, you ask? There ain't no more love 'cause it's business now, baby!
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Post by The Sound Guy on Jun 30, 2006 9:26:53 GMT -5
You knew this was coming...
Alright strapper, you got my attention. I will tell you why DWOW can compete against WWE, as soon as I get a minute. I've been jammed up with some stuff and as soon as I have a free moment, your comments will be shredded.
Sincerely,
The Sound Guy
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Post by cjsim on Jun 30, 2006 13:21:32 GMT -5
Typical.... You can't take the "HEAT" get out of this business ASAP! I never even heard of DWOW until recently and like stated been in the business and been following it for 30 years,you can't take the critism you should pack up right now. You will NEVER be able to compete with WWE,nobody wants to see women in strait Wrestling matches that's why WWE has women that can't work,they're show with no go. Shred my comments it will just prove me right,I have little time for this B.S. as well,work a job,but say what you will,know about this business and I know you could never compete with WWE or Vince McMachon. Remember WOW,gee that lasted long...
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Post by The Sound Guy on Jun 30, 2006 13:23:02 GMT -5
Okay so some know-it-all independent brainiac pipes in with his comments on DWOW vs ECW. Let’s rip it apart and get down to the nitty gritty… And now with the mighty Sound Guy commenting on this, people will finally start to read this post and heading!
>>>Do you think anybody really listens to the fans in this business?
If you listen to the fans, you then sit with the fans. You can't listen to the fans all the time.
>>>Been in it,know all about it.
What have you been in? If your talking about the wrestling business, who did you work for, what did you and what were your (and the company’s) accomplishements?
>>>Also read about DWOW stating how they can compete with ECW? Vince McMachon runs this ECW, he has un-limited funds,you don't,
Yes, we very well could compete with this ECW, even on our budget, --EVEN on just a local and regional level. ECW did it back then to WCW and WWE. We could easily do it and to be honest we’ve already begun. Unlimited funds is not the case with Vince either. Eventually, things run their course and dry up, in fact as I’m sure you already know, the WWE was about to claim bankruptcy just before the Stone Cold phase of the business.
>>>Vince and this ECW in all do respect would crush you guy's,they'd buy your talent,offer them fame and fortune and you'd be left with nothing,
Not if the talent was under contract first and the company had their own deals in place. Look at how ECW started. Local TV, regional TV, anti-establishment, filling up arenas, selling merchandise, Pay Per View and then a National Cable deal. Why couldn’t, not only DWOW, but anyone else do the same thing, with some money, talent and connections?
>>>when you get a deal going where you have a national plat form and are known over the world then you have rights to brag,Vince like him or hate him he is known,the WWE is known,you think he'd sit there and let promotion move on in?
He wouldn’t have a choice. We would do WHATEVER we could do to put on a more entertaining product. Look hot girls are all good to look at, but if they are not entertaining, you just turn the channel eventually.
>>>It's Vince's project,and trust me I know all to well about this business,Vince destroy's lives and has no remorse, that's why he is where he is today,
Please give more information on your background and how you KNOW about Vince McMahon?
>>>NWA TnA has a stronger chance in competing with ECW and WWE then any other promotion.
Currently, I do agree with you. All it takes is a compelling and entertaining product and you never know who could sweep in and CASH IN! BTW, I think NWA TNA product is very well produced, but it pains me to watch it as it is not entertaining at all. Great wrestling and nothing much else. I’ve tried to watch it. NWA TNA is a glorified WCW.
>>>I've seen it all... Been watching this for some 30 years now,started watching it when I was like 2 at my Grandparents house,it's very premature to say that DWOW,WEW or any other Promotion can compete with WWE and Vince McMachon,
Let’s name them shall we… AWA, UWF, NWA, ECW… even the old GLOW and I’m sure there were many more, all started, ran and made their own noise. What ever happened to them, was most likely poor management.
>>>TnA is trying but still aren't even close,but in terms of promotion competing with WWE,well in short TnA is the only one that can do it with a major backer,Vince would just go into his pocket pull out $100,000 grand and good bye DWOW roster lol
You can lol all you want. Reality is this. Anything is possible if you put your mind to it, have a plan and a little luck doesn’t hurt either. ECW didn’t have crazy money, but they competed and made a dent.
>>>>and $100,000 for Vince would be spare change.The truth also is that mostly men follow women's Wrestling,why is this? Hmmmm let me guss here,it must be the in ring stuff...lol The only reason the WEW even sells DvD's is because of the oe thing men watch women's Wrestling for "SEX" it's true,oh yes it's damn true.
We agree… Let me mention our foremothers…. G.I. Ho, Tai Killer Weed, Ginger, Angel to name a few. We understand why people attend our events, buy our merchandise and follow our company. But, there are some who also like some good wrestling. We give it all, some wrestling, T & A and comedy.
>>>Why did ECW sell so well? Sex and Violence,anybody who follows Wrestling knows this,and anybody in the business should as well,know several guy's who run promotions and they have women working their shows and they state the same,the women sell because well in short they are women, I mean with a name like G.I. Ho it doesn't sound like she's selling girlguide cookies,to end this Vince runs a billion dollar francise and ECW is apart of it,when you start selling out tickets in five minutes and are seen world wide then you can say "Hey you were wrong",we can compete...
One day at a time, one deal at a time. You never know. Well YOU do know lol
It’s thinking and reasoning like yours that hold you back from ever truly succeeding in the wrestling business, in fact life.
Where there is a will, there is a way. It’s not a dream, it’s been done before… and is being done now!
The Sound Guy
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Post by The Sound Guy on Jun 30, 2006 13:32:18 GMT -5
Typical.... You can't take the "HEAT" get out of this business ASAP! I never even heard of DWOW until recently and like stated been in the business and been following it for 30 years,you can't take the critism you should pack up right now. You will NEVER be able to compete with WWE,nobody wants to see women in strait Wrestling matches that's why WWE has women that can't work,they're show with no go. Shred my comments it will just prove me right,I have little time for this B.S. as well,work a job,but say what you will,know about this business and I know you could never compete with WWE or Vince McMachon. Remember WOW,gee that lasted long... Well old man, time for you to clock out then. We can stand the heat. It's obvious you don't know much about our mayhem, but you come here and post your wisdom rants. You have little time for this B.S.... you wrote the 20 paragraphs over the last two days. Are you doing this on your work time? WOW was run by David McClane. He's a nimrod. He had 2 million and blew it all. If we suck so bad and aren't anything... WHY ARE YOU HERE POSTING? PHUCKIN Jackass! SG
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Post by Chef on Jun 30, 2006 16:18:38 GMT -5
SG one thing you forgot to mention some of DWOW talent has loyalty and aren't in it for the cash BIG POPPA MAE
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Post by cjsim on Jul 2, 2006 11:51:48 GMT -5
I had a whole line of things to say to your reply but I'm gonna be the better MAN here. Takes 5mins tops to write out somethig on here by the way you idiot. Anyway could bring up stuff about the DWOW but what you wrote at the bottom atop your name stated it all, way to put your product over there,have friends who are fans. And I will not discuss any of my past in the business of Wrestling,it's just that,in the past. Oh and if you know how many times I have written,who's the one with alot of time on their hands? Your the JackAss pal,get a life. Last thing to say here,anybody,and I mean anybody can run a Wrestling promotion,hmmmm APW,an accountant runs it lol Please.
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Post by The Sound Guy on Jul 2, 2006 13:31:14 GMT -5
I had a whole line of things to say to your reply but I'm gonna be the better MAN here. Takes 5mins tops to write out somethig on here by the way you idiot. Anyway could bring up stuff about the DWOW but what you wrote at the bottom atop your name stated it all, way to put your product over there,have friends who are fans. And I will not discuss any of my past in the business of Wrestling,it's just that,in the past. Oh and if you know how many times I have written,who's the one with alot of time on their hands? Your the JackAss pal,get a life. Last thing to say here,anybody,and I mean anybody can run a Wrestling promotion,hmmmm APW,an accountant runs it lol Please. Strapper, please! Is that the best you come back with? I thought you didn't have time to post here? But you come back again and again. I know... don't bother replying I'm not going to rad it or reply. BULLSHIT! This is not about being the better man, it's about putting up your so-called credentials. You come here proclaiming all kinds of things. PUT UP OR SHUT UP! I am an idiot, I've replied to you. I could bring up 10,000 things about DWOW and all our problems. At times I do bring them into discussion. The reason wrestling is in the "past" for you is... you put your heart and soul into and never succeeded. You spent and paid all kinds of money to be involved in the business. After being a fan for many years, you crossed over the line from being a "fan" to be a "worker" or part of the show. You couldn't handle it, or weren't accepted because YOU thought you were star quality, or didn't have a grip on what to do. When in the end, it wasn't what you expected it and you didn't have "it". You thought it was all glitz and fame, but then reality hit you and how hard it is to really do this and do it right. You pissed away a ton of money you could've used better elsewhere. Am I in the ballpark? Probably! I do have time on my hands... this is what I do. What a f'n jackass you are! Do you realize what words come out of your mouth or as you type. You have NOTHING! You have been served! And you're right ANYONE can do a wrestling company or anything else... just like compete with ECW... like I said before... "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish great things." Be a man for once in your life and stop hating. Stop being jealous because I'm not (and others here) are not posting on YOUR company message board. Back to what I was saying... Be a man. When DWOW does good things, say "good job". Not well WWE does it better or they have more money. We already know that! We do things on our level. If DWOW ever has the chance to go head to head with ECW and we win... you go out of your way and say "job well done". AND... if we don't do anything out of the ordinary, or we lose our claim to beat ECW, when this is all said and done, I will make sure you are mentioned in our fair well speech to the world. I will say cjsim was right and that we didn't get it done. Remember this, we NEVER claimed to want to be the size or as big as WWE, as it would comprise the product. And with that... Have a great 4th of July holiday! The Sound Guy
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Post by cjsim on Jul 2, 2006 14:46:17 GMT -5
You talk about me? With all that in short crap you just put it's a wonder you can even write. I had family and family friends in this business when you weren't even a glinter in your daddies ballsack, I could take it,I was in Boxing and the Marial Arts before that,you know real sports, I was on the road,no pay,building rings,paying my dues,Wrestling is behind me now because I faced facts I had to grow up and be a man and get a real job,I have a family unlike you obviously,gee I can put food on the table and pay bills by being a "worker" huh,and I will not discuss where I've been in this business because it's none of your damn business,do I care where you've been? Hell No! Have I seen DWOW,yes,draw next to nothing at shows but yet think they can compete with WWE's ECW? The ego on you pal. Anyway I can't believe I'm replying to this nonsense, you be a man and face facts this is a game where there is virtually no money because people don't watch it anymore, and I read about other people going after you idiots for the same reason,remember this "Things got so bad last week we had over 50 request from e-mail list subscribers to be removed from our list due to the anti-WWE statements". Also I believe they wanted removed because you help or run DWOW,a person has an opion your defensive,not everybody will like your product so get over yourself jackass. I in short will always have more then you, you rob people of their money I work for a living,I earn a living in society, and one final thing never dropped a dime into the business, only put my blood on the line and my body,I paid my dues you little punk.
Enjoy your holiday CJSim
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Post by The Sound Guy on Jul 2, 2006 16:37:52 GMT -5
You talk about me? With all that in short crap you just put it's a wonder you can even write. I had family and family friends in this business when you weren't even a glinter in your daddies ballsack, I could take it,I was in Boxing and the Marial Arts before that,you know real sports, I was on the road,no pay,building rings,paying my dues,Wrestling is behind me now because I faced facts I had to grow up and be a man and get a real job,I have a family unlike you obviously,gee I can put food on the table and pay bills by being a "worker" huh,and I will not discuss where I've been in this business because it's none of your damn business,do I care where you've been? Hell No! Have I seen DWOW,yes,draw next to nothing at shows but yet think they can compete with WWE's ECW? The ego on you pal. Anyway I can't believe I'm replying to this nonsense, you be a man and face facts this is a game where there is virtually no money because people don't watch it anymore, and I read about other people going after you idiots for the same reason,remember this " Things got so bad last week we had over 50 request from e-mail list subscribers to be removed from our list due to the anti-WWE statements". Also I believe they wanted removed because you help or run DWOW,a person has an opion your defensive,not everybody will like your product so get over yourself jackass. I in short will always have more then you, you rob people of their money I work for a living,I earn a living in society, and one final thing never dropped a dime into the business, only put my blood on the line and my body,I paid my dues you little punk. Enjoy your holiday CJSim You amuse me and how right I was on your replies. Typical disgruntled fan, turned wrestler. Like I said you tried and you failed. You didn't win in this game in the long run. It's a rough life I admit it, but you really don't know nothing about me. You're bitter about the business because YOU failed. You left it behind because you didn't accomplish what you wanted to. Again, you're too busy to keep coming here, I'm an idiot and DWOW sucks, you say. We'll who's really the idiot? You're arguing with me! Stop being so top secret. The reason you don't share your "experience" is because most likely everyone reading this would laugh at you. And your final statements are just plain ludicrous. Stop being jealous already, you really sound like a fool. You will have more than me? First off, my left ball has more talent than you. How do you know what I have and don't have? We rob people of money? How? Do we provide entertainment? Yes, granted YOU Mr. Professional ex-wrestler may not think so, but again you posted here. You work for a living... that is great! So do I. Again you don't know about me --period. So I don't earn a living in society? I pay taxes like everyone else... on the money I made being in this business. And you did drop money in the business, when you were paying your dues, not getting paid. That's your investment, even if you want me to believe you never put money out of your pocket. You paid your dues... Explain. Let everyone see. Let me give you props, what are you afraid of? Don't fire off shit and expect no one to say nothing. You're still a nobody, just like you were in the business. I figured out, you want to be ME! Thanks for the compliment! The Sound Guy P.S. I'm enjoying a beautiful day at the pool, enjoying myself. Wish you weren't here!
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